I clicked the reply button at the bottom and u posted last.
Do you like my study?
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not reading it but goodjob on proving red wrong if you did, but i must say that study is very neeky.
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TLDR, red is bad at maths, he is wrong across the board
UD rod is less than half a second faster than luga
ye well, Red said i was stupid in vc right after confidently asserting heād nerfed a rod he didnāt understand by 25%ā¦ I aint taking that from a man who plays videogames for a living!
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Nice maths
Epic costs 1000x less and is less than 5% worse, whos the real winner there
the ud rod because its faster.
your entire reason for making this riot is because you thought an epic is faster than a ud rod, but now all 3 of you were proven wrong in that graphā¦ what is there to argue anymore?
You donāt know whether itās faster or not because the difference between them isnāt statistically significant.
You can take my word for it or I can calculate the variance and run a quick stats testā¦ but Iām sure even a layperson can understand a difference of less than 0.3 on a scale that goes up to 20 is not significant.
Luga Rod and UD Rod basically have the same catch rate, which matches the observations I made yesterday, and given that Luga rod has a tighter range of distribution, it makes a lot of sense why people would believe or question whether the Luga Rod is better.
Thereās no point nitpicking small details. The evidence is damning. Red got everything completely wrong because he thought the catch rate was divided by three instead of being shifted to a positive skew distribution curve.
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Ngl this is so sad bro
The amount of essays being written here about a topic that is completely pointless Loool
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this was a very entertaining 5 minutes reading this.
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so then why did you make an entire riot over speculating that it might be slower than the epic lol but instead of might you guys were 100% certain and spammed all dayā¦ you need to stop with this hypocrisy in these firebacks!
that actually seems very embarrassing because he is supposedly a major in statistics lol. then again I can see how a mistake like that can be made, but only through negligence
I talked with Shob and my math is correct, I just didnāt know about the bite time minimum of 100 ticks which skewed my math. I had been assuming that minimum bite time was 0 ticks which messed up my bite times. Shoblette and I worked out the exact values.
The New UD Rod fishes an average of 210 ticks per catch and was 175 ticks before the change, so youāll catch 16.7% less stuff and fish 20% slower now. This is even less of a change than I had previously estimated.
The Ariel Hair gives +20% experience so it averages out that after the the change you get almost exactly the same amount of xp. You just get 17% less items with the UD Rod now as compared to before (though fish sell for 100-150% more now as well)
So the result of the change was the same experience output, decreased total items output, and increased fish value. As I talked and agreed about with Shoblette, you might notice it in the short term because sometimes you get the outlier long bite time, but in the long term the xp output is nearly the exact same (0.6% more than before)
So essentially it is only slightly nerfed and only for how many items you get (except that the fish u get are worth 2-2.5x to compensate some)
As more fishing special ULs, the fabled rod, and UL Shrek/Luga Net come out fishing will continue to go far and beyond what it is now so thats why we made one small adjustment to the UD Rod
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The test also concluded that the mean average of UD rod is less than 5% faster than luga rod, is anything going to be done about that? or is UD rod going to maintain its position as a very minor upgrade at the cost of thousands of times more than the luga rod
I think itās in a good spot where itās at currently, giving 2x fish as well. The main criticism I could see now is that itās barely better when you have the Luck effect, since you donāt ever get any fish with it, so Iād be willing to consider making the UD rod also give like 2x drops for drugs or something.
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Fish are kind of useless, the real money is in the shreks pole luck, especially the drugs.
However
This would be stupidly overpowered, I dont see the issue with buffing the rod back to its original speed.
Buffing drugs by 2x would probably mean at least a 30% increase in money from fishing. if not more
Itās going to remain at Lure 4. Iām willing to give it another adjustment. As for the fish, Iāve been told and shown that people can make a billion or more off of the fish in a week with the new fish prices prices according to the amount of fish people obtain. Rockfish is at 200k now for example.
Do you think 2x drugs it too strong? Iām thinking of either a % chance to get 2x drugs or instead a smaller percent chance to get 2x on a non-fish in general form the rod. This buff would be in regards to the item not being as useful when you have Luck effect.
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The ugly duckling rod was an amazing rod because of 2 things, its catch time, and its consistency in getting those catch times. the 2x fish drops was merely an added bonus. The low, consistent catch times made the rod incredibly satisfying to use. Faster catch time rods are legitimately more fun to use. Even if you buffed the Ugly Duckling Rod to 2x drug catches, Iād still pick the lure 5 one any day of the week. Which is why I find it unfortunate that you are unwilling to budge on this, whether its because of your ego or because you truly believe it to be the better solution. I know many people will agree with me on this.