KitPvP [Buff] Archer

As Archer is right now, it is very weak.
It’s sword is one of the weakest available in Kitpvp and is only played, because it got Speed 1.
Archer sure can kill a Ninja, but this is incredible difficult, because the Archer has to hit Ninja EVERY SINGLE TIME Ninja wants to do damage, has to make sure, that Ninja gets as few as possible of soups/pots at refill stations, has to make sure, that Ninja can’t run away and ambush from a dead angle and, the most incredible difficult part of all, NO INTERFERENCE.
The Argument, that Archer can kill a Ninja, when s/he does it right, is a fictional fact.
The only times I saw an Archer (for example me) kill a Ninja (or any other kit not protecting itself from falling damage), is when shooting arrows down a jump pad.

Here is a list of possible Buffed Kits of Archer or Kits, that are edible to replace Archer:

Archer(1)
Equipment:
Leather Helmet and Boots in #FF00FF with Protection 1 and Unbreaking 30.
Chainmail Chestplate and Leggings with Protection 1 and Unbreaking 30.
Stone Sword with Unbreaking 10.
Bow with Power 3, Punch and Infinity and an Arrow.
Permanent Effect: Speed 1.
Description:
Every 30 seconds, Archer(1) can do a Leftclick with the Bow and get the ability, to shoot Arrows without charging the bow for 10 seconds, like in Minecraft Beta 1.7 and below.

Archer(2)
Equipment:
Leather Helmet and Boots in #FF00FF with Protection 1 and Unbreaking 30.
Chainmail Chestplate and Legging with Protection 1 and Unbreaking 30.
Stone Sword with Unbreaking 10.
Bow with Power 2, Punch and Infinity and an Arrow.
Permanent Effect: Speed 1.
Description:
Archer(2) is like Slingshot, equipped with an passive ability of point and click.
The Bow still needs to be charged, but when the Arrow is shot, it will seek the player, the Cursor was held on.
If there were no player at the Cursor’s direction, the it will fly like a normal arrow.

Archer(3)
Equipment:
Leather Helmet and Boots in #FF00FF with Protection 2 and Unbreaking 30.
Chainmail Chestplate and Leggings with Protection 2 and Unbreaking 30.
Stone Sword with Unbreaking 10.
Bow and an Arrow with Power 3 and Infinity.
Permanent Effect: Speed 1 and Strength 1.
Description:
This Archer(3) is more of the close range one.
The Bow might not be favorably keeping the distance, but every single Arrow does the same amount of damage, as a fully charged Bow would do.

Reinforced Archer(4)
Equipment:
Golden Helmet with Projectile Protection 1 and Unbreaking 30.
Iron Chestplate and Boots with Protection 1 and Unbreaking 3.
Chainmail Leggings with Protection 2 and Unbreaking 10.
Stone Sword with Sharpness 1 and Unbreaking 10.
Bow and an Arrow with Power 3, Punch and Infinity.
Description:
Archer + Mario’s Red Mushroom = Reinforced Archer.

Archer(5)
Equipment:
Leather Helmet and Boots in #FF00FF with Unbreaking 30.
Chainmail Chestplate and Leggings with Protection 1 and Unbreaking 30.
Stone Sword with Unbreaking 10.
Bow and an Arrow with Power 2 and Infinity.
Permanent Effect: Speed 1.
Description:
Archer(5) is like Elementalist, but actually dealing damage.
The Bow needs to be fully charged to shoot an enemies tracking Arrow.
Unlike Elementalist, this Arrow doesn’t need the Bow to target a Player for it, it will track players in a 12 blocks radius to it’s current position and will do a 5 blocks radius turn, when it tracks someone.
However, the Arrow will activate it, once it got a distance of 15 blocks to Archer(5) away.

Huntress

Witch

Elf

List of Buffs for Archer without the other Archer re-imaginations above:

  1. Feather Falling 2 on the Boots.
  2. Speed 2 instead of 1.
  3. Power 4 instead of 3.
  4. A throw-able grenade doing charged creeper damage on leftclick of the bow.

Archer is good for a free kit, the sword shouldn’t be too strong because it is supposed to be a long ranged kit. If you’d like to go melee play kit pvp. I disagree with giving it higher speed/grenade because it doesn’t make sense for the kit. I like the father falling tho.

Kit idea 1 is op for close range cuz u just bow spam them.
Kit idea 2 is just elemtalist build in archer
Kit idea 3 would be op too because you can just bow spam close range
Kit idea 4 since you use it long range your armor shouldnt really matter that much

(Just my opinion)

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I’m not the one using the Sword of the Archer Kit all the time.
I put the higher melee damage in, because I wanted to go with my ideas into all directions possible. (in hich most of them the sword goes weaker)

Basic kits need to be playable as otherwise people will not enjoy the f2p style of kitpvp.

Archer is definitely fine the way it is in my opinion. In fact, I believe it to be one of the best kits to choose from currently (along side PvP, Viper, and Ninja). Power III literally packs a punch and at no punishment from the archer except for the armor. Yeah you take a lot of damage, but that’s kinda the point of an archer. It works rather as support or a class that keeps distance. So long as you are shooting the bow, you are a big threat to a lot of different kits. Also with unlimited (correction: 385) shots on your bow, you can easily spend 5 - 10 mins shooting people as much as you like. With that being said, there needs to be a cost to play archer which goes to the armor. This could make playing against ninjas, riders, and slingshots really hard. As you mentioned, it is really hard to get a shot off with a ninja, but that’s part of the reason it’s a kitpvp server… 1 single kit shouldn’t be able to take on all the kits on the list. Sometimes you gotta work extra hard for those kills! ^^

Also I would like to mention the main two free to play kits, meaning kits that always stay as free to play, regardless of the rotation are Archer and PvP. I don’t think these kits should have any abilities whatsoever. The idea of these two kits is that its the Vanilla PvP aspect of what MC PvP is. If you don’t like the abilities of kits or find that you are struggling with those kits, you can always revert to just playing vanilla PvP and still have fun. So adding an ability for archer seems wrong to me.

The feather falling idea, seems to be the best if we wanted to buff archer, but like I said, I think archer is one of the best kits to choose from right now as it deals with most of the kits on the list pretty efficiently, so long as you can aim.

One of the big problems that a lot of players think archer is so overrated is that the players themselves are playing the kit wrong. I’m not trying to be egocentric, but the idea of playing an archer would be to use the bow more often than your sword… That is why the sword will deal less damage over time than the bow. Most people see the Speed I and think this would be fine to melee as long as you get more combos. In the dream case that you get a 5 combo, I would agree, but that dream is not reality. The archer sword is there if you need to push them away quickly while dealing a few bits of damage. So many times have I seen archers trying to use the sword as much as possible, and end up over-extending themselves into their own demise.

Anyways -1, I really think Archer is fine the way it is currently.

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I have to disagree in the point of being a treat to a lot of kits, when shooting the bow.
Not only is Archer seen as an Error in the pvp-matrix, just like the squid’s existence in Minecraft, but is also seen as easy tokens, which require only 3 hits.
The Bow does on other Archers 4.5 hearts, while it only does 2 hearts on any other kit.
This information makes it clear, Archer is a Counter to only itself.
If I were a treat to other kits as an Archer, then those other kits must be really really really bad at dodging and souping.

When I want to push people away using the weakest sword available in a gamemode, then I would use it with Knockback 1, which is not on it.

Archer kit is annoying as it is. If its buffed it will be abused by groups of people.

Honestly, archer used to be my main just because I liked the speed 1. It’s fine even if you overextend as long as you’re good enough at tanking to survive a lot of hits. I don’t think it needs to be buffed as it’s honestly op as it is.

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Archer(5) added.
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There are already groups of people abusing a kit.
These abused kits are mostly found in the Meta.
If you don’t know, which kit is the most abused one, then you will surely someday find a team of 7 to 9 people with the same kit.

Please dont necropost(bumping a topic that is 2 weeks old)!

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