Is MunchyMC just generally cooked?

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I’m stopped playing the server a while ago but I do think of it from time to time. I might be wrong about a few things but like I just wanna ask, do people still play MunchyMC?

I guess I could go down the list of gamemodes-

Kitpvp: This was my first gamemode. It was great and I could go on abt is for a while, but at the end of the day it died off. Ppl say “#revivekitpvp” but like realistically I don’t think anyone will play it again. I think like maybe like once a month there’s like 5-10 ppl on kit for like 1-2 hrs max, but like even then it’s kinda rare for ppl to be on it anymore. Truly unfortunate imo.

Woolwars: I genuinely haven’t seen anybody on this gamemode in a good while. Maybe people play it, maybe they don’t, but when I last saw it, it was dead with like 0 spikes in activity.

Event: I don’t even know if BBH still does his weekly streams on event anymore, and if he does, Idk if ppl rlly join anymore atp.

Prison: I think this is still kind of alive? With each new map, there’s always like an influx of new players pulling up that play for like 2-3 weeks (sometimes even a month), but once they get everything they want and max out a bunch of stats, they just dip. After like 2 months it gets kind of dead and nobody else rlly plays it except for like the select few who grind it ykwim? I honestly could be wrong about this aswell there could be like a bunch of ppl playing and I just don’t know.

Survival: Prolly the most alive part of the server. Survival still has like a pretty alive/vibrant community ykwim, and it has ppl consistently playing and like putting bug reports and suggestions and stuff like that. I honestly didn’t expect that because I feel like survival gamemodes are kind of copy/paste with a bunch of MC servers, but I guess MunchyMC survival is different. As of rn, I’m predicting that it’s still alive and stuff like that, but just with new ppl and not rlly having the same ppl playing.

Gamemaker (idk the name I might be wrong): I remember being in the lobby of munchymc once, checking like the server list, seeing a server that was kind of suspicious, trying to join, and it wouldn’t let me. I think I messaged DutchMTC about it, and Dutch said “We can’t say too much about this yet, but it’s gonna be a new thing for MunchyMC”. I was lowk excited cuz I thought they were reviving kitpvp, but then I realized it was a new game mode which was also fine ig. I thought gamemaker was pretty good, and I guess a lot of other ppl saw it as good too bcuz it got VERY POPULAR with a lot of frequent visits. BBH streamed on gamemaker aswell which got it some hype and attention. The last I saw of it, it was really booming and popular, but idk about it rn. Idk if BBH still streams on it, if ppl still make new gamemodes and play on it, if they shut down the gamemode, I don’t even know at this point.

Purgatory: Saved the best for last! I was banned a few times so I spent time in purgatory. It was very cooked. I tried to do the quests of getting unbanned, but like everytime I logged out, my progress would just reset, so there was no way to get unbanned by doing the quests (unless you spent like 300hrs straight grinding the quests, but ur pc would prolly give out at that point and nobody in their right mind is doing allat). It never was that popular in the first place (atleast from my time playing on the server), and it is probably dead rn.

That’s just my simplified analysis of how I think the server is. Please lmk if I’m right or wrong, I’m curious to see how this server has been doing. I had a lot of fun on MunchyMC and I think of it from time to time. Thank y’all! (Also I’m not tryna disrepect the server or anything or be negative, I’m just genuinely curious. I can’t log on MC cuz my account was cooked and deepfried, so I’m just asking fr. No hate no troll just like me being curious fr type shi ykwim)

P.S. #REVIVEKITPVP

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Hello

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this is such an intellectually challenging response to my original query! I love the way you epistemologically responded to my original post! Thank you so much for your contribution!

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Survival became mid once instead of community, it became a large amount of players who are under 10 and had more and more p2w stuff instead of focusing on fun :{ people still play but it isn’t the same imo, most game modes are dead. Overall kinda cooked

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Here are my thoughts on each core gamemode, and how to “fix” them:

KitPvP:
1.8 PvP is dead in the water. The only real change they could make is maybe hosting actual events on the server?? I wholeheartedly believe this gamemode is in the worst state possible. Hopefully the developers can come up with something to revive it, because right now, it’s just a waste of a gamemode.

Wool Wars:
Same situation as KitPvP. I can’t think of anything else to add.

Prison:
Prison is nearly dead. This map only came out a few months ago, and it now averages less than 20 players (more than half of them being AFK, by the way). The only solution I can think of is to give it a map refresh. It gets about the same/most players (with Survival) but Munchy generally has been dead, so it’s hard for new maps to do as well.

Survival:
Survival is thriving right now. It has actual staff who care about the community and the gamemode itself. Of course, the player count isn’t the highest, but that’s only because this season has been out for nearly a year. No changes needed :slightly_smiling_face:

Gamemaker:
Similar to Survival, it’s also in a good position. Events like the CTF tournament being held right now are a great way to bring in players from other gamemodes. No changes needed

I’ll finish this reply by saying I wrote all of this in four minutes. I know most of my solutions are very surface-level, but I stand by them. Reviving Munchy shouldn’t be hard, but if it is going to happen, three things need to occur:
1. Advertisement for ALL gamemodes
2. Every gamemode needs a developer who cares and actually plays it (shoutout RossRao)
3. Listen to community feedback from people who are still actively playing the server

Final note: If I have to see another post identical to this one, complaining about the staff team not listening to the player base, I’m gonna lose it. If you want to revive a server, you’ve got to listen to the players who are still actively playing… not the same people stuck in the MunchyMC glory days.

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Yeah I lowk thought that all the survival players were newer ones to the community, and like younger kids imo. There was this one guy named JoshieTheDragon who was so annoying that I knew for a fact that he was under 12 yrs old.

Also congrats on ur photography stuff.

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I agree 1.8 is dead atp. Soup PVP is longggg dead (I think the final nail in the coffin was lunar soup getting shutdown), idk abt NoDebuff but i’m going to assume its dead. Kit could become rlly fun if it was primarily like an event holding server instead, but then it wouldn’t be kitpvp anymore it would just be like a mini-event server.

Prison is well yeah the same ig. New players come in during a new map, they leave after a bit, ppl who stay on are just AFK grinders

I think Minecraft community is like kind of dying rn or just changing into a different community. Advertising the server would be a bit difficult bcuz all these gamemodes are inherently part of older minecraft, which is long dead. Idk I’m not too into the MC server space & I haven’t rlly done extensive market research.

Thanks for the response though I’m glad there’s some ppl on Forums still responding to posts and stuff. preciate it unc

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Ugh I remember getting on minecraft again after a while… (like almost two years)to play woolwars and no one was online😭 I waited so long and no one got on man… I miss playing it so much😞

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Hits hard!

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Like clockwork, every few months we get a post like one of these. Every time the answers are the same. It should be obvious at this point that nothing is going to change. BBH isn’t going to go through the effort to properly promote the server. Management will continue to largely ignore community feedback, and even in the rare instances we get a response it’s clear that there isn’t a plan to bring the server out of this slump.

The bottom line is that BBH seems to not really care enough to do what needs to be done to bring the server back to life. So even though there are passionate developers and staff who put in real, consistent effort to make the server better, it makes no difference. It’s really disheartening to see, considering how popular MunchyMC used to be and how unique some of it’s gamemodes are.

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Same bro. I first felt this way for Kitpvp, and when I got on, it was dead.

Switched servers to woolwars, dead.

Switched servers to Prison, server mostly dead with ppl mostly just AFK grinding

the 3 primary gamemodes I played on the server, were dead sadly.

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I realized that like while typing this forum post, that there probably were a good amount of similar posts like these that appear every month or so. “Like clockwork” is insane works not gonna lie.

Honestly this is probably the most true interpretation of how this server is going to turn out. I don’t want to be pessimistic or negative, but realistically what you said is completely true.

If you look at others servers that have Kitpvp and Prison or similar gamemodes, they get popular because players who used to play these gamemodes go on these new servers to have some nostalgia, but then like after 1-2 weeks it just dies out.

Now with MunchyMC, it’s already been dying for years on years. I don’t necessarily understand why BBH doesn’t promote this server as much anymore. Is partially due to toxicity? Does he have better means of income? Does he really just not care about this server at all anymore?

Even when minecraft was popping in like 2020-2022 (maybe even 2023 idk) and MunchyMC was very popular, BBH just did NOT promote this server. Literally Skeppy promoted this server more than it’s own creator, which is honestly sad.

In terms of management, I’m not to familiar with how things work and how it generally has been for years, but if everyone says that like mods and management just doesn’t gaf about the game anymore and doesn’t listen to players, it’s probably true atp.

Overall, I think that everything that you said is completely true. Even if it’s pessimistic, it’s the reality. We have minecraft pvp servers as a whole dying out, more specifically we have a server with old & out of date gamemodes, and even more specifically we have a server with an Owner and management who haven’t cared about the server in over 6 years.

RIP I guess.

P.S. Oracol I saw u typing. Ur goated I wanna hear ur opinion

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I didn’t mean it as a criticism of your post by the way, it simply speaks volumes about how little is being done that posts like yours are so common.

I do want to reiterate that I really don’t think that the servers decline is an issue of management, while it might be a factor for some gamemodes, it’s nowhere near issue #1. From what I can tell, @RedVelvetCake & @Varmetek do legitimately put in effort to try and keep Prison running (from what I hear this is similarly true for Survival).

I think nearly all of the blame for MunchyMC’s decline falls on BadBoyHalo. He doesn’t upload videos related to Munchy or promote the server (although, he doesn’t really upload videos at all, does he?). His interactions with the community are few and far between, with the occasional check-in for a new prison map or big event.

If there are zero new players coming in to check things out, it makes sense that overtime the playerbase will dwindle to near-nothing. Even though Munchy has a lot of very entertaining gamemodes, those stop being fun when you have nobody to play them with.

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Personally, I think we need both sides of the community. People who are actively playing, and people who don’t play anymore. If someone who doesn’t play anymore makes posts like these, it’s because they care about the server even a little bit. They understand that it was or is or can be a great server if there were just certain changes made.

Now, if people are only going to sit and complain about how bad the server or the staff is, or talk about how they don’t like BBH without giving any constructive criticism, ideas, or helpful feedback in any way, then screw their posts and replies. There’s usually a reason for why people aren’t playing anymore. And if it’s a valid reason instead of just “mUnChy BaD”, then we should want their input.

Ideas are what we need. New ideas. And if anyone, new or old, currently active or currently inactive, have new ideas that may help the server, then we should hear them. That’s why I like making the posts I make, because I try to encourage everyone to give their opinions and ideas. And its why I like to see these kinds of posts from people who haven’t really seen much growth, and instead see the server in a bad spot. It opens up oppurtunities for all of the MunchyMC community to discuss their ideas, experiences, or opinions.

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Nah ur good on the clockwork thing lol. I was just thinking it’s kind of both sad and funny how this is like a recurring thing when ppl post on forums asking like “What happened to MunchyMC?” or “MunchyMC fell offf???”

I definetly remember RedVelvetCake being more active on prison the last time I was playing, even talking to me on the server and helping me out. There definetly some good managers, but like yeah kind of what u said. Can’t really do much if there isn’t much to work with. You need new players for a server to continue to thrive, and BBH is the main person to do that. Since he doesn’t, the server’s pretty much obsolete.

Truly unfortunate :frowning:

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Actually this is right. Asking previous players for input helps improve.

I gueess that it’s just not happening right now in the server.

Idk for sure, but I guess the management (except the good ppl) just kind of rely on like that nostalgia or like “glory days” feeling of munchy rather than listening to the newer players and their ideas. This causes new players to leave.

I think it’s good to ask the older players or like players who used to play, but it’s better to focus on the newer players who are actually still playing. They are more likely to have new ideas, because they are just like newer minecraft players in general. The older players probably have good ideas, but those are the same ideas that just constantly get ignored by the management.

Maybe it’s not that those old players have ideas that are “bad”, rather those ideas have just been constantly ignored. New players = new ideas, and maybe the newer ideas won’t get ignored like the older ones. Idk for sure tho, bcuz those new ideas COULD just as easily get ignored, and then it just repeats again and again.

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I feel like right now MunchyMC feels and looks like its “cooked” but there has always been a lot of potential for the server, and there are still people who are trying to make things better.

Kit and Woolwars:

Kitpvp is done. It’s not going to come back no matter how much we want it to. It’s not just because Munchy soup is done, but because of Soup pvp in general. There have been multiple servers that have come out to try to save Soup after Lunar shut down, and all of them have failed. They were active for the first few weeks of their release, but then everyone stopped playing once again. There are many reasons for this, but one of the biggest reasons is because 1.8 is just so old. 1.8 is only going to continue dying as time goes on, and Soup or any other game from the past are going to be forgotten. The large majority of people who play Minecraft are playing on the newest versions. They are playing with the modern pvp style, and are used to it. 1.8 is foreign to so many people today, so trying to save Kitpvp by updating it or making big changes while still keeping Soup or the 1.8 style at all won’t really work.

The same is mostly all true for Woolwars. Woolwars definitely has a lot more potential as a 1.8 game, but all of the factors of people playing on newer versions and them being used to the modern pvp style still apply.

We just really need to update these games to the modern versions or rework them or just make new pvp based games, and mostly focus on bringing in new players. New players are what will grow the server and make it “active” again.

The rest of Munchy ig:

On Event, BBH still does his weekly event streams. There has been less and less people playing as time has gone on, but there are usually still a ton of people playing. I also stream there and host events there most Saturdays, but that’s about it lol. Event isn’t really very important to Munchy as a server though, so regardless of how well it does on Saturdays doesn’t matter too much.

Prison and Survival both do well even though they lose players over time. The devs and managers of these games don’t seem to just lay back and ignore their games unlike the past managers for the more dead games. Theres often a new event or update coming out for these modes to try to keep people entertained or busy while they work on things for the future. If this continues, then if Munchy grows its overall player base, they will be just fine.

Game Maker is new, so it does pretty well. It is mostly made up of BBH viewers, so it is kind of carried by the fact that Bad plays it, but regardless they still play often, and it usually ends up being the most active game on Munchy by the end of the day. And when it comes to the staff like the dev and manager of Game Maker, they are always coming out with updates to improve the game or add content that didn’t already exist. And there have been bigger events happening which should obviously continue.

While these games are doing pretty well, the only issue I tend to have with them is that they aren’t very beginner friendly. If I had to guess, it’s why you don’t often see new players playing. Whenever I join any of these 3 games, its usually always the same people every single time. Now that’s obviously not a bad thing, but I also spend a lot of time in Hub just kinda hanging out when I’m bored, and I always see people joining that I’ve never seen before. So, there are some new players joining, but they don’t ever stay. This is where I obviously think advertisement could help, but that’s a whole different discussion.

Purg and Skill Duels:

Purg isn’t really important at all. Plus, currently you can’t even join if you aren’t on the newest version of Minecraft anyways. I like the idea of banned players working for their unbans, but when you join and someone’s online and banned, they are just hacking because for some odd reason its allowed… Either way, Purg just doesn’t matter at all when it comes to Munchy. Maybe if the server had tons of people playing it would matter more, but even then, it’s really just for banned players to work and suffer as punishment for hacking or whatever else they get banned for.

You didn’t mention Skill Duels at all, but you really don’t even have to. Skill Duels is useless. This is the only game on Munchy that I will openly hate. It’s useless. All it was for was for Dream to advertise to his fanbase to play the same games he played against that other youtuber in their duel or whatever it was. And Dream didn’t even advertise Munchy, he advertised the IP that takes you straight to Skill Duels. If this game were to disappear tomorrow, it would literally have 0 effect on Munchy. Did I mention Skill Duels is useless? Oh, by the way Skill Duels is useless. Sorry

Uh idk hi hello:

Anyways Munchy isn’t “cooked” it’s just not in a good spot right now. I truly believe the server can and will grow eventually as long as we don’t shut up, and as long as there are staff who put in even a little bit of work to try to fix Munchy. If that stops, then yeah Munchy’s gone.

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Thanks for this. I hate to see that everybody agrees on Kitpvp being gone, but that’s what you get when it’s an old 1.8 game with Soup PVP (literally one of the oldest ever pvp gamemodes).

I still feel like IceBreaker’s take is a bit more realistic, but I also see where ur coming from lowk. I hope MunchyMC makes a good comeback.

Thx Oracol ur goated fr

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wsg bro. Whats ur opinion on the post

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Hey everyone!

While I haven’t had a chance to sit down and break down all replies, I do agree with everyone and change needs to happen. As those in the BIT team are aware, I have been pushing for change in recent months behind the scenes.

I am working on a potential new gamemode to bring to Munchy (not confirmed or solidified yet), but will be announcing more details as soon as I am able to bring it into development/confirm it’s development and functionality on Munchy.

I do ask for patience on this, as I am going through major life changes in my personal life and won’t be able to commit to major progress until things have settled.

I guess the main point in saying this is that I am trying, and things are starting to make changes slowly. I have been waiting to announce anything until things are official, but I want to keep a clear and open line of communication on posts similar to these. I will sit down to address some things at a later date when I have time to do so properly.

While I do not know what the future holds, I strive to keep a clear and open line of communication as I progress through development and beginning steps into this new journey with Munchy :slight_smile:

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